(01-15-2017 01:49 PM)doubledareme Resident Wrote: I am saying he is a thief because he is. He is taking things illegally and making profit from it and has been doing it for some time. Read Callie's Letter Lexi.
Also I know him to be a thief because he has disabled my profilers and many others profilers of people whom he did not like because we would not comply to his rules...WHICH by the way were not there nor was the website when this product started out.
As he has created the website and now he has controlled more and more of what people do or do not do because of threats and bullying. Perhaps its ok to some but its not ok to most of us As an auctioneer I have BOTH profilers and both of my profilers were disabled because I refused to use them the way he wanted me to and that was not ok with him. So he harassed me and yelled and screamed at me and when I would not comply he disabled them. No refund...no appology. This is just the beginning of it. I have been auctioning for years and years and I have been to not 1 ...not 2 ...but 3 different sims...that he has harassed the owners so badly when I was there because he hates people he can't control so much that he threatened the owners that their profilers would be disabled and all of them on the sim even the renters if they did not fire me. And I'm also not the only one he did that to. Further more he would NOT list auctions in his auction schedule which caused many long time auctioneers to lose spots they had had for years and for the auction to be taken over primarily by one sim. He has done all this to me and to others I know personally because we would not let him bully us.
FURTHER MORE... This has not just suddenly come to a head. I have personally known about this issue for well over a year now and I am not the only one. I don't know all the details but I was made aware that Callie and KittyCats were dealing with it and as you can see in her letter...if you read it...it didn't go well. This is NOT about whether you paid for the pictures or not this is about a man stealing copy written material that is legally hers to profit from and using this material to make a profit for himself. As for other pictures...most people are not selling them or breaking the law in using them. Many people have access to the logo in the limited fashion KittyCats has released it. Anyone else that is using the material or has used it in the past has had permission. Personal photographs of you kittens is totally legal. But this is not the same thing.
And let me explain this one last thing to you. In order to make those profilers work he must have thousands and thousands of pictures from KittyCats. He did not make these pictures...he STOLE them ..dipped into KittyCats computer and stole them. He did not take every single cat picture you see on these profilers...those images BELONG by COPYRIGHT to KittyCats...which is a registered trade mark.
This is a big deal. It is not just one one level. He took money from hundreds if not thousands of KittyCats clients selling his product by way of using their registered name. He profited for over 3 years off of a stolen product. He has continued to bully and harass and grief many people over this time when they tried to stop him from controlling them. He has stolen from EVER SINGLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROFILERS NOW IF HE DOES NOT RETURN THE MONEY. Lets look at that shall we...
lets make this an average of 10 US money. So many people have bought the more expensive version and some currencies are not as on par with american currency so lets just say an average of $10. Lets say he has sold 2000 of these profilers... We have no clue really and these are not his first profilers that he has made..he has done this to other companies...research it. 10 x 2000 = 20,000 Thats just at 2000....i am sure he has sold many many more and the amount adds up to much more. $20,000 us dollars. Now if you add to that the royalties he would have been paying for had he gotten the materials from Callie legally....he made money on that...i can imagine a fair sum, by not having to pay for it. Now lets take that and add in what he makes off his website. He had advertisers on there. He would have made money for every hit to his website. He is not stupid. I don't think that at all he had a brilliant product. But the material for it was obtained illegally and operated illegally and he made a lot of profit on both the website and the product. And essentially stole this money.
Yes my post is assertive. If you are blind to the real world and what is right and wrong and what is just and fair then of course you think I am a bully and Callie is the bad guy. But if you are aware that this is REAL LIFE we are talking about then how can you be ok with what this REAL man did. There are LAWS in the REAL WORLD and in SECOND LIFE about this. We think this is a game. That what we do here has nothing to do with real life. That is false. Rene bullied me so badly...he traumatized me. I have proof. I have witnesses and I am not the only one. He Verbally assaulted me. He Bullied me horribly, He said things about me that are horrible... He bullied and verbally assaulted and hurt OTHERS for being friends with me and he STOLE MY RL money as well...it was just $30 buck us but omg! who does that! . ALL OF THAT my friend is something I can't imagine in my whole life doing to someone else. And I am one of MANY this happened to including Callie from the sounds of it.
If you think this a game and can overlook what he as done because it helps you sell a KittyCat then I think I said the exact right thing to whom it applies to in my previous post.
As for me I am rejoicing this day along with many others that this man is finally going to be gone from our lives. I have heard several people tell me of the anxiety he has caused. People with disabilities flock to kittycats because of how soothing it is.. We do this because some of us are bedridden, some have mental disabilities and some have had much trauma in their lives. There is a huge group of people in the KittyCats community that have this community and nothing else. I personally suffer from anxiety, I have a physical disability that keeps me at home. My friends are here. Rene bullied me so badly last spring ...IN voice...In REAL LIFE...he had a group of his cronys gang up on me on open chat....and in IM's and literally made me so anxious and so traumatized I had to leave SL for months. But i remained in kittycats thanks so much to the cattery online. They have improved it so much rene's profiler is redundant except for the easy sale one might make by jumpers.
Anyway.. I have every right to comment on this and I have a whole other side of the story you obviously have not seen or know about. AGAIN I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON THIS HAS HAPPENED TO. I have witnesses and proof of every single thing I am saying. Rene has words...and he is good at manipulation....he is a crooked sales man. He can sell ice cubes to inuit and even call them eskimos while doing it. And just so we are clear. What I have said is not defamation of character , libel or slander because every word I am speaking is the provable truth.
Think about that for a while.
You can jump on my head, call me Lexi instead Lixy, use a wrong name and treat me like a stupid, like a silly child that don't understand rules, laws and think to her little box to sell.
For me this is very offensive, bully and aggressive. But i don't care. Really.
The profiles, years ago, when came out, did not had a site. It's true.
Maybe was in his intentions. Since NOW there is/was a site.. no?
I really don't understand when you say that he controlled people. He never controlled me.
And never controlled any of my friends.
And all your problems, between you and him are your business. Not mine.
Because i don't have any possibility to know the truth.
I truth what i see.
And what i see is all this sourness you put in this problem i read is more than you say, i read that it's a personal question..
You are telling that he ripped off here and there and earned money from all of us.
Really. A site i think cost money. More than the money we paid.
Really. The profilers don't need any picture. We don't need any picture.
The Community don't need any picture.
The Community need the site, need the database and need the freedom to run a store in a desolate place without spend ages for advice the cats.
Need the freedom of decide to don't put a cat in auction and come in touch to everyone in the same moment. In a click.
The Community is made from a lot of people. Not only the one you can see in auctions, or in markets, or in Addict's chat. Silent people are a lot. Are the Community.
I am not blind at all, but wat i see it's a war you're fighting for other business than yours.
Or better.. your business for sure, or you would not fight for this.
If the profiler was a thief product should have been blocked from the first day. Not now, when i can think someone has seen a nice opportunity for take advantage, earn more money and other business that i don't see because i'm not a business woman.
. I don't think this is a game, and i know there are laws.
Sure you're not a lawyer. And, repeat, if the problem were the pictures should have been a problem from the first day. And this is the first time i hear you shout at thief..
You say Rene bullied you. I did not see this. And are not my business.
I am not judging Rene Marseille's Man.
I am talking about Rene Marseille's Profiler.
Of course i'm not thinking SL it's just a game.
And i'm not talking about the profiler because helped ME to sell my cats.
I think to the Community. I speak for the Community.
And i'm talking about the profiler.
That helped our Community like NO OTHER THINGS or PEOPLE has EVER DONE until now.
The profiler gave FREEDOM and opened new way to stay in the market to all the little breeders/sellers that, before this, were FORCED to rent/spam/auction etc etc etc.
And the little breeders/sellers, as i said before, are The Community.
About the pictures stuff, Doubledareme, I DO NOT CARE AT ALL.
Are THEIR business.
If is so serious sounds very very strange to me that TODAY became SO SERIOUS.
And about the money earned with the profilers i would say that everyone sold one single cat using the profiler is totally accomplice because earned on that one. And i'm sure everyone already amortized the starting cost of the kit.
We were talking about the product, not Callie's vs Rene. This is too big for us to handle and this are not our business at all. Unless we are all lawyers.
Profilers make playing KittyCats more interesting!
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