Give those "Teen-kitties" a boost of love! (Faster breeding)

[Khea Karas]

Seems Im having some technical issues posting on this thread for some reason Sorry for the repeated postage.

(03-25-2012 03:49 AM)anna acanthus Wrote:  A word to a few of the bigger breeders who dump prices rather fast ( usually because of an auction back-firing for them and a no or low sale ). You really aren't doing yourselves to the business any good at all by undercutting each time on the new recessive furs. You'll be just as well off selling 1 for say 20K as 3 for 9K, the market will hold better and people will be more encouraged to invest as they know that their investment will be more solid and they'll have time to get some money back from it. So please, a bit more responsibility and also you'll get clients back who don't buy your kitties anymore simply on principal, even though they are cheap. The biz as a whole will profit and yourselves as well.

Most of those who hold out for higher prices aren't doing this out of greed, but to try keep the Biz as a whole, running and healthy, it's a much more intelligent and thought out attitude. Kudos to them.

Thank you for this intelligent insight...finally someone else who sees price control the responsibility of the sellers. I have often been criticize and heard of people complaining my prices are far to high and I do it out of greed. This is never the case, and I refuse to sell a cat for a lower price simply because it has been seen elsewhere for cheaper. I will always do my best to negotiate of course within the buyers budget, but will not drastically reduce my cat just for the sake of a sale. If we all stopped trying to undercut each other and sold a cat for its true value then the market would have a better chance.

Thank you Anna

Now as for the issue of kittens birthing in 7 days instead of 14, this in no way will have a negative impact on the market, most of which has already been pointed out and I agree wholeheartedly with. Most importantly though, I believe it WILL encourage new breeders to KCs, which in turn will create newer buyers for the secondary market.

[Kitten Longmeadow]

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[Kayleigh McMillan]

If the reason behind the fact kitties start to breed at 14 days has to do with the secondary market I would love to hear this from KC.
Because, I haven't got much experience with other breedables and it seems to me KittyCatS are one of the only breedables who indeed have a 14 days growing/ gaining love cycle.
So far I have seen KittyCatS is extremely smart when it comes to market their cats so it could be so this 14 days wait is a tool for KittyCatS to regulate the market.
I'm no marketeer nor did I study economy and it is possible this is just as well thought through as all the rest concerning KittyCatS.

Because sometimes M**roos are compaired with KittyCatS I have tried Roos just to feel the difference.
I have to say breeding M**roos from being a total rookie is damn hard as well.
First of all by having to figure it all out but this is the same with KittyCatS.
The personality of Roos that need to be able to match, no back breeding, no sibling breeding *sighs* homestumps, all sorts of food for the different Roos I'm seriously shocked by all these handicaps brought in the Roos to breed them properly!
As much as I hate to wait 14 days if this is needed to regulate the market so be it honestly.
Because as far as I can see, besides no gender on the box the 14 days wait is the only build in "handicap".
But if this growing/ breeding cycle is 14 days for any specific reason I would like to hear this from KittyCatS if they like to share this.
If it has not such reason I think indeed it would be an encouragement for new KittyCatS breeders to hang in there if the breeds started at 7 days and for the community to overcome the "wrong" gender being bred in their breeding programs.
My first breedable was a KittyCatS and after this I wanted to investigate Roos and I have to say I feel spoiled much by KC's they are so uncomplicated if I compair them!
Honestly I think it is not to compair at all the strategy seems so different.

[Ethereal Hurricane]

I totally agree with you Kayleigh, as I'm not suggesting I am right, but that's just how I personally feel. I'm only speculating. I would love to hear from KittyCatS, as to why they decided on the 14 day wait.

And, as I have, and will continue to state, I also hate the wait, but I think its there for a reason, and it seems like to me, a good one. Why else would I even bother posting against it.

[Khea Karas]

The whole point though is we are not making the cats breed any faster or produce more boxes with this suggestion.
Only making the INITIAL first breed happen at 7 days, and cutting down the life span (breeding days) of the cats, so they will still breed the same amount of boxes overall.
It changes nothing except making the Breeder be able to plan their projects evenly when back breeding, and giving the new Breeder greater anticipation and excitement knowing they will get a kitten box in only 7 days, instead of the current monotonous 14 days wait time.

[Kayleigh McMillan]

(03-25-2012 06:34 PM)Khea Karas Wrote:  The whole point though is we are not making the cats breed any faster or produce more boxes with this suggestion.
Only making the INITIAL first breed happen at 7 days, and cutting down the life span (breeding days) of the cats, so they will still breed the same amount of boxes overall.
It changes nothing except making the Breeder be able to plan their projects evenly when back breeding, and giving the new Breeder greater anticipation and excitement knowing they will get a kitten box in only 7 days, instead of the current monotonous 14 days wait time.

I agree this would be awsome!

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(03-25-2012 05:59 PM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote:  I totally agree with you Kayleigh, as I'm not suggesting I am right, but that's just how I personally feel. I'm only speculating. I would love to hear from KittyCatS, as to why they decided on the 14 day wait.

And, as I have, and will continue to state, I also hate the wait, but I think its there for a reason, and it seems like to me, a good one. Why else would I even bother posting against it.

I believe they have a reason for this.
They covered so much eventualities I wouldn't be surprised if they have a reason for this as well.

[anna Acanthus]

Another point i'm not sure has been made here yet ( 5 pages to read through now ) is that this measure would help balance out the fact that sex before birth isn't going to happen as apparently this would interfere with some future plans.
When we actually DO actually manage to get 2 kitties of the opposite sex then at least we wouldn't have to wait 2 weeks to continue our breeding projects.

I refer back to this thread too : http://www.kittycats.biz/forum/showthread.php?tid=2199

[Khea Karas]

(04-04-2012 01:37 AM)anna acanthus Wrote:  Another point i'm not sure has been made here yet ( 5 pages to read through now ) is that this measure would help balance out the fact that sex before birth isn't going to happen as apparently this would interfere with some future plans.
When we actually DO actually manage to get 2 kitties of the opposite sex then at least we wouldn't have to wait 2 weeks to continue our breeding projects.

I refer back to this thread too : http://www.kittycats.biz/forum/showthread.php?tid=2199

Exactly!

[penfold83 Resident]

(03-25-2012 06:34 PM)Khea Karas Wrote:  The whole point though is we are not making the cats breed any faster or produce more boxes with this suggestion.
Only making the INITIAL first breed happen at 7 days, and cutting down the life span (breeding days) of the cats, so they will still breed the same amount of boxes overall.
It changes nothing except making the Breeder be able to plan their projects evenly when back breeding, and giving the new Breeder greater anticipation and excitement knowing they will get a kitten box in only 7 days, instead of the current monotonous 14 days wait time.

What khea says here says it all, it just seems so simple and you wont be making anymore kittens as the breeding time is cut to compensate..... seems a no brainer.

[Lixy Byron]

ReBump

.birthin some os and thinking.. awwww 14 days before know what will happen!