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11-15-2013, 11:53 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2013 12:10 PM by Liriel Garnet.)
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(11-14-2013 04:54 PM)Serena Stroikavskoi Wrote:  I would still be curious to know if it still holds true. Since we have brought up the subject and seen all these updates and the major one with introducing the petite, bigger de big, and megapuss. Liri if you find it I am interested to know what was said, if at the time it wasn't or if they would not put the coding into do it.

He said this AFTER the new sizes were released. I'm not the only one who's heard this directly from KittyCatS -- ask Kitten or Equi, they'll tell you exactly the same. Size is determined by a completely independent one time 'roll of the dice' random number when the box is initially populated, whether as a starter or as a box born to two parents.

As for the notion of requiring a certain number of cats or births or whatever, that's just back to the odds. if the odds are 1 in 20 or whatever of getting a random size, you can get that 1 on your first try, or your 10th, or 20th, or 40th or anywhere in between. The odds of getting a 9T direct starter OS are extremely low too ... not only is the chance of passing all 9 hidden less than 1/1000, it requires that the starter actually hide the three non-guaranteed traits, which reduce the odds even further, and yet I've seen it happen.

Tad, I can't guarantee the answer is 'no' to your question, but to the best of my understanding, unless there are special 'provisions' in the breeding or populating of certain specials (like 0% chance of sizes for the firestorm perma's, last years special easter OS from the flower pair were all toys), the random numbers are generated for the traits and size, etc., then it references the DB to populate the traits from mom and dad (has to look them up to see what the box got) or the starter available trait list as applicable. Depending on how it's actually done (whether it's as you suggested in a range where the size is predetermined based on the random number or whether it's just a 5% or whatever chance and if it hits that, it selects from one of the five special sizes at random), it might reference the DB at some point for a list of sizes possible, but I'd wager that's the only reason it would in terms of size.

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11-15-2013, 03:54 PM
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RE: SIZE DIFFERENT
Just a note... out of 20 boxes birthed this past Wednesday, 3 were megas... Smile

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11-16-2013, 12:28 AM
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(11-15-2013 03:54 PM)Dottie Idlemind Wrote:  
Just a note... out of 20 boxes birthed this past Wednesday, 3 were megas... Smile


Just out of curiosity,

what was the trait counts on the three mega's?


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11-16-2013, 04:22 AM
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(11-16-2013 12:28 AM)Winter Phoenix Wrote:  
(11-15-2013 03:54 PM)Dottie Idlemind Wrote:  
Just a note... out of 20 boxes birthed this past Wednesday, 3 were megas... Smile


Just out of curiosity,

what was the trait counts on the three mega's?


All three were from Halloween starters and ranged from 1 to 3 traits. All were on genesis fur. Smile

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11-16-2013, 04:37 PM
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(11-15-2013 03:54 PM)Dottie Idlemind Wrote:  
All three were from Halloween starters and ranged from 1 to 3 traits. All were on genesis fur. Smile

Which is an interesting anomoly I have happen quite often.

THE GENESIS MEGA EFFECT.

A weird, disproportionate amount of geni's

dishing out mega's!

I figured maybe it would balance out sooner or later,

and I would come up with a string of cool 9 traits huge kitteh,

but instead of blaming it on mathmatical probabilities,

I am now positive VOODOO is indeed involved!

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11-17-2013, 04:25 AM
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KittyCatS have always been clear about the fact you get more chance to breed a cat with a special
size and genesis traits than one with a special size and desired traits.
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11-17-2013, 10:15 AM
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(11-17-2013 04:25 AM)HikariItsumo Resident Wrote:  KittyCatS have always been clear about the fact you get more chance to breed a cat with a special
size and genesis traits than one with a special size and desired traits.

Do you have an exact quote for this from the team? Because it does contradict what Liriel said about size being a straight randomization. Not that it couldn't be done of course. It would be a subroutine to weight the likelihood of getting a Megapuss based on a check of the number of generated traits that were Genesis. It would just run as one of the last steps of generating the box and would Not need to query other database fields like User# or Total Cats. It's just that Liri said that HQ said that size was purely random.

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11-17-2013, 10:38 AM
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(11-17-2013 10:15 AM)Ivy Norsk Wrote:  
(11-17-2013 04:25 AM)HikariItsumo Resident Wrote:  KittyCatS have always been clear about the fact you get more chance to breed a cat with a special
size and genesis traits than one with a special size and desired traits.

Do you have an exact quote for this from the team? Because it does contradict what Liriel said about size being a straight randomization. Not that it couldn't be done of course. It would be a subroutine to weight the likelihood of getting a Megapuss based on a check of the number of generated traits that were Genesis. It would just run as one of the last steps of generating the box and would Not need to query other database fields like User# or Total Cats. It's just that Liri said that HQ said that size was purely random.

Honestly I wouldn't believe this unless i personally heard it straight from KittyCatS himself. This contradicts everything I've been told repeatedly by him. I have had plenty of 9t mega's .. even mega's with the exact traits i wanted in the box -- tho i hate it when that happens, because i'm one of the ones that doesn't like to breed with mega's because they mess up my nice neat cattery.

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11-17-2013, 10:53 AM
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Quote:tho i hate it when that happens, because i'm one of the ones that doesn't like to breed with mega's because they mess up my nice neat cattery.

LOL. That is sooo funny.

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11-17-2013, 11:29 AM
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Well, he said it a couple of times in the group chat, believe it or not.

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