(10-15-2014 04:59 PM)Deerne Resident Wrote: Am I way off to say it is each market on it's own?
I don't know I am new to this maybe solidarity can be enforced as suggested.
But ultimately the sim owner needs to be able to pay the sim fees and owes it's customers/ renters real traffic and sales otherwise they quit renting.
True cooperation cannot be forced, as all worthy endeavors it hinges on the parties' sincere intentions...the goals must be clear. And yes, the sim owners must be able to make tier and drive traffic to support renters. But let me quickly add that ANY time Anyone mentions $$ there is a flood of "i dont care about money, I just want to enjoy my hobby and its a hobby not a business". That may sound good, but its a bit altruistic. So, which is it? It is both, imo. It is a hobby that entails exchanging Real Money for Fake Money LOL. And That we do because we love our hobby. But there is no denying either aspect of KC.
Both the buyers and sellers, whether sim owners, auctioneers or just occasional buyers of pets are part of that big business or if the term is more pc "hobby where we dont care about the money but need it"
giggles.
(10-15-2014 04:59 PM)Deerne Resident Wrote: To me this means also organizing attractions at prime time such as auctions when and how long their clients want.
I am still new so I investigate markets to see which community speaks to me and I'd like to join.
To me it is only natural I will be supportive to the events my market is organizing as well as my fellow merchants on that market just so I give back to that community.
That because it is in that market and it's community (of friends) best interest.
I totally understand what you are saying but am not sure I know if you are referring to "markets" and "community" as individual sims...And if that is the case, then why do we need a co-op if we are to remain divided? It is a divided market that to me signals lack of synergy needed to join more than one force to create a bigger stronger one than the sum total of all. To me, and this is just Me, Community is All the sims where KC is. I dont like to look at it as
a market but rather
The Market. And if i limited myself to a single sim, or group, I know I would not only miss out on alot of great things but also on a lot of friends I would never meet, and connections that were never made. ... I hope I am explaining this well. I really am trying to understand what some replies mean.
Quote:I'm appalled that this conversation is even happening.
I agree...but i think in many ways i feel it more appalling that it is necessary.
Ideally, we could all just sort of let things flow naturally and not run aground every few months...but its not an ideal world. For better or worse, which depends on if one is a new market or old one, there are new markets opening up all over. And just because the status quo has been in place for years does not mean we cannot progress...shoot...we started out bloodletting and and trying to find the homunculus responsible for our illnesses... but when new things developed we either accepted them or not, at our own peril or to our own benefit. So far all i see is that the longer the silence about these persistent problems, the louder the complaints when it blows up. So, clearly the solution is not to ignore the elephant in the living room til the pile of dung is too big to walk around hahaha
Quote:Adults do not ask other adults (total strangers at that) for permission to engage in hobby activities that they enjoy; they just do it according to their own schedules.
They may talk to each other to minimize the blow and stagger openings, but ultimately, there's more than one thing running at any given time
Warner Brothers and Disney and the other major movie studios DO look carefully at what the others are doing for release weekends for summer blockbusters more than a year in advance. They do not ask for permission. But they do craft opening strategies.
You have given examples of attempts to cooperate. And i think thats what this thread is about, isnt it? Not permission. I dont ask permission to do things I honestly feel are ok or which i wouldnt mind others doing.
Quote:I can appreciate that the CoOp is trying to act as an Arts Council and coordinate things. That seems to me to be a good goal. I am not an auctioneer nor part of any of these negotiations, so I don't know the specifics of what is going on or who is doing it, but what I'm hearing sounds like people are trying to make a binding schedule.
Binding schedule? No, there should always be room for cooperation and flexibility. In fact, just this week i got a message from another auctioneer asking if I was interested in an auction time close to mine. She was sweet and thoughtful and it allowed me to modify my own schedule to do things in a way that took a little pressure and hustle out of the way of auction patrons. She didnt have to do that, but she did and I recognized and appreciated that. No one Told her she had to, or that she Could Not. She did something nice without anything Binding her to that. Just as I have done in the past and many others here have done as well. The last place i worked i left with some times I was using but thought they could use. I was not bound to, but wth...if flexibility can create good will, why not?
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