KittyCatS! Market Improvement Suggestions

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(10-07-2014 06:28 AM)Whispers Magic Wrote:  You should keep reading through Page 4. I offered a "radical" solution, and so far no one has commented on it. It would ruffle too many feathers to actually force the removal of the excess kittycat boxes on the market, even with a good incentive to do so, I guess.



I was/am involved with another breedable that tried once to put time limits on the offspring. It was a disaster!!!! People were angry etc. Just speaking from experience and I believe Calli was there at the time...it was not a good idea!

Its not a time limit on offspring. Any trait can be bred back into a cat when it is retired but it is not offered in the new starters. If the traits were retired and newer ones were offered regularly there would be more people buying starters...less of the same cats over and over. There would be no difference then there is now with the retired traits. It would just be harder to get them and retain them which makes them more valuable. I have used this analogy before... In the art world once the print is gone out of original issue it is then bought and sold for way more than the original price . It is the same with retired traits. Those worth saving and having ...even if its to the individual will be bred back in. Case in point. Twinkle Flash and Blush...Shorty tail...Plush whiskers.... its not about limiting the breeding its about evening out the market by retiring traits that are holding the progress of KittyCats from moving forward. Triple myst does NOTHING for the secondary market and the KittyCats starters are saturated with it. It hurts the market by keeping those traits available in starters. To get rid of the myst we have to breed and breed and breed and we get box upon box upon box of what we do not want.

The other problem that would arise from expiry dates on boxes would be less effective breeding. Some times it takes months to breed the cat you want because of the outdated traits Most are looking for newer traits or specific traits to breed into their cats. I have boxes I am waiting to open until I have the right combination in the ones I am breeding now. The stress on people to get the breeding done in three months would be enormous and just not practical. I have Ben snows sitting in my cattery for 6 months now ...just waiting for some of the newer traits to be put on them but I don't have time nor the energy to do it right now...some of these are projects for people and they spend much time planning them out.

As far as people breeding 100's of cats and getting hundreds of boxes...well you can't really tell people what to spend their money on nor how to run their lives. It may not seem practical to you or to others but for them there is joy in it. There are many that love having their stores, and take pride in their breeding. WE pay for the cats. WE pay for the food. WE pay for everything to do with the cat WE purchase. WE should have the final say how many boxes we keep...what we toss to the menagerie. I for one would put more there if it was worth it. Sorry after months of breeding 20l per cat hardly makes sense. I would rather keep it just to have it for posterity. Now if the Menagerie were worth it...the value of a box/kitty up by a few lindens and the goal to sending them there more exciting you would probably see some doing that. I know there are many who cannot bare to send a cat/box to the menagerie...so what do you tell these people. Oh sorry you are poop outta luck ...we know its gonna break your heart and bother you endlessly but oh well get over it? Thats not fair to the hundreds of people breeding that want to keep what they have bred. And really the problem is not with unopened boxes that people want to keep. The problem is in selling them and expecting the same value you did when they were first a novelty. Case in point. Cheap cheap to find a VCR in a pawn shop but people spend thousands of dollars for the newest home system. What did i hear...the newest Iphone costs between 6 and 8oo dollars but i can buy an older model for less than a quarter of the price. There is no retail store that would even try to sell their old Iphones for the same price as the newest model.

All this needs to be considered. I still think one of the best ways is to retire many of the over bred old traits and keep them out of the starter kittys. I hate the fact that when I buy a starter I'm likely to get traits i could care less about...like the infamous myst.

But at the end of the day...we can discuss this till Jesus comes back but its not going to make a difference if KittyCats does nothing about it. These things have been mentioned before so many times in the threads of this forum. Its time for KittyCats to stop just letting us discuss this and like I said in my later post, get someone who is brilliant in marketing and try to fix these problems or what will happen is that KittyCats will go the way of the dodo. Many things need to be considered and I do not think anything we say here will do one damned bit of good if its not being taken to heart and some sort of solution offered. This problem has been ongoing for a long time. Its time for KittyCats to start hearing what we are saying and not just letting us chat endlessly about it till we get frustrated and angry about it...which is what is evidently happening.

This is directly to KittyCats. You have the ultimate decision here...not us. You created a product that was obviously going to lead to a secondary market... This market has existed since the beginning of KittyCats and its time you got involved in it. You can pass the buck for another year and find more and more of your clients angry and leaving KittyCats or getting frustrated and giving up or you can accept the responsibility that you have a HUGE part to play in this market and try to take some action to help rectify the problems.

I will say it a fourth time. HIRE A MARKETING GURU and figure this out. What ever is happening now is clearly NOT working and too many people are unhappy about it for you to ignore it forever.