(05-25-2014 01:13 AM)anna acanthus Wrote: For the record the breeding method described here is, of course, the only method for discovering new recessive traits.
Since 2011 we have Saga's docs, with the dominance charts, a simple guide to the method and also the Trait-Talk Transcript from an information meeting that Saga gave in September 2011 ( http://kittycats.biz/forum/showthread.php?tid=2351 )
Of course she doesn't take all the credit for this and i remember Draco Nacht dropping me a NC with the known trait orders that they and a few others had already worked out sometime in summer 2011. The Nachts were giving meetings each sunday from around May/June i think to share what they had found and everyone was welcome to attend.
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That's interesting historywise.
I was always in the assumption Saga uncovered or discovered it all.
Thank you for clearing that up, Anna!
I wasn't part of the community yet ( joined July 2011) when appearently the Nacht's already shared info!
I first joined Saga's lecture after which, I think recognisable for everyone, I went through a lot of trial and error, we had no classes those days.
Hearing how something works is so different than actually doing it making faults/ mistakes and misconceptions ourselves.
The practice part and making those mistakes to learn from was probably equally educational for me and fun too

I noticed this also when I helped my husband with learning how to breed.
I can tell everything I know as fast as possible but the concept really kicks in when he saw patterns during breeding and asked me questions about it.
Sadly it is not always possible to tell someone how to breed in a short period of time.
Everyone learns different: one can see the full implication on paper, others really need to see how it works so that can be a process of months even.
I indeed do not think anyone wants to keep anything a secret, all the intel is freely available via the transcript of Saga's lecture.
It takes time and devotion though to bring the pieces together and to fruition.
We've all been there.
Some things can be taught, others must be practised over and over again.