From what I have read I notice that this thread is trying to move forward to avoid that people name their kitties or boxes with a hidden they can't be sure about if it is there or not.
Is it because we didn't bred the kitty long enought to know or because one lacks the knowledge yet to judge this correctly.
This is not per se the wrong of the seller, the seller may be new to KC's or isn't informed enough yet.
And breeding KC's has a steep learning curve for many and there is absolutely nothing wrong with not knowing everything.
It took me a long time to get the hang with exactly breeding what I wanted but I loved the puzzle and miss it sometimes :-)
KC give us a new puzzle!
I think it helps to keep creating awareness though in trying to avoid people are naming kitties or boxes with hiddens if we are not absolutely positive about that.
Also because the KC community grows so fast many new breeders join and perhaps like to know this and be warned at least I would definately like and embrace such warning if I was a new KittyCatS! community member and new to how the genes of KC's work because from my understanding not every breedable works the same.
But also simply because money is at stake I think it is only fair and maybe even kind to warn sellers instead of thinking of it as insulting and condescending.
Sometimes it is also how we read things and that may not always be how it was intended but rather interpreted.
Because if someone pays good money for a precious claimed (new) hidden which turns out not to be there this can be a big problem in my opinion.
Just as with RL selling a lot of money goes hand to hand in this breedable and certainly not with monopoly value.
This is not so much the problem for people who have learned to read pedigrees, although sometimes pedigrees do not reveal it all unless we can go all the way back to the starter, but for newer people it can be disappointing if a hidden isn't there but they have paid the price for it.
So in general I think when we are in doubt let the pedigree be the judge for the buyer I think that is only fair to ask and has huge community relevance to repeat as new people arrive.
Maybe this should be a sticky post even