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Poll: Which breeder and owner indications should be VISIBLE in the pedigree?
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Owner & Breeder name 73.42% 116 73.42%
Owner name 18.99% 30 18.99%
Nothing 7.59% 12 7.59%
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Pedigree Anonymity (2)
02-05-2013, 02:35 AM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2013 02:51 AM by Sanura Snowpaw.)
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RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2)
(02-05-2013 02:01 AM)Nocshadue Balbozar Wrote:  I'd like to throw in my 2 L$ here. There are a few concerns voiced that while I understand where they are coming from just want to point out another perspective. Sanura mentions a concern that having the breeder's named in pedigree will propagate an elitist attitude. I disagree and would like to offer this perspective; suppose you are a content creator and you have worked hard, perhaps using some prefab items and putting your own spin on them (an approximation of what breeding is to me)..then you are told of course you can sell these things but...once it leaves your shop, your name is no longer connected to it. If someone see's it and likes it, well, they have no way to know where it came from. How successful do you think your shop would be? Or perhaps you are an artist and you make beatuiful paintings..and they sell well but..you are not allowed to sign them?

As far as Pen's concern that being able to trace the original breeder of a new and high priced trait hurting the secondary market, well..what I have seen is that already goes on all the time. It may take a little detective work now, but word of mouth is a powerful thing, and also drives the market. I don't really see that having breeders names listed in pedigree will hurt the price of new traits. There will always be those who don't want to stand in line for a deal and will happily pay more to have it right away.

I like having both breeder and owner listed in the pedigree..and I think in the long run it will benefit the community as a whole. We need to think not just of ourselves and what we have done already but of the new breeders coming after us too.

I don't find it a problem that an Alt may be listed on some of my cats...I don't particularly use alts to breed in general, as to me that would just be too confusing. But I have heard some say it helps them keep projects organized etc. I see no problem with that at all. Many of us have alts we may use for other purposes in SL. If you are concerned perhaps create an Alt specifically for KC?

To wrap up I just want to reiterate, I belive unlocking the pedigree is one of the best things we can do for the community as a whole, and I approve of showing breeder names and owner names.

Hugs,
Noc

I can understand and respect it when viewed that way, although I do think you having owned the parents of that baby x now owns shows you bred it just as well as having it show breed by.

I'll be honest the protocol thread from a few weeks ago (which is now gone) and how people reacted in there has very much so colored my view point on this and it is my fear that adding the bred by role will propagate that. I very well could be wrong and I honestly and sincerely hope I am unfounded in this fear.

I have also since than had new breeders come to me and saying "hey I bought both parents and bred this baby can I still sell this?" showing their fear that their kitten might be rejected because they do not own x amount of that line.

I do think breeders do deserve credit for what they have done by NO means am I trying to say that they aren't but I think adding bred by is just superfluous to what we already have.

As for alts I have my own reasons for having them, using them and wanting to keep them to myself and I think everyone deserves the same thing.

I am thrilled to see that I can look at a pedigree of a cat I bred and I sold or gave away at some point, seeing the offspring I had from that cat so I can track something back.
I have to add my own anxiety issues tend to make me worry about things more so than someone else might, I am well aware of that. But I do hope that people understand that I am speaking from my heart and the deep love I have for this community and that I honestly do want to see the very best for the community as a whole.

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Messages In This Thread
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Jelly Supply - 02-07-2013, 03:25 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Vamps Cheeky - 02-05-2013, 05:07 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Bea Shamrock - 02-04-2013, 10:57 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Julia Merosi - 02-05-2013, 12:54 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Callie Cline - 02-05-2013, 12:49 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Sanura Snowpaw - 02-05-2013 02:35 AM
The alt issue - Petronilla Whitfield - 02-05-2013, 11:58 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Nikka Nateas - 02-05-2013, 12:00 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Corvi Ashdene - 02-05-2013, 12:02 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Isaura Simons - 02-05-2013, 12:36 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Saga Felix - 02-05-2013, 12:39 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Khea Karas - 02-05-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Tad Carlucci - 02-05-2013, 06:16 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Misa Delight - 02-05-2013, 08:26 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Tad Carlucci - 02-05-2013, 10:56 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Sippie Andel - 02-06-2013, 10:51 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Callie Cline - 02-06-2013, 11:09 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Khea Karas - 02-06-2013, 11:22 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Liriel Garnet - 02-08-2013, 02:30 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Rocky Balzibo - 02-08-2013, 10:51 PM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - anna acanthus - 02-09-2013, 02:08 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - anna acanthus - 02-09-2013, 09:12 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Tatiana Cheng - 02-09-2013, 09:37 AM
RE: Pedigree Anonymity (2) - Dimpz Morane - 02-09-2013, 10:11 AM



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