Balinese, and the secondary market. Can we *avoid* having a round 2 of this?

[Charlotte Calael]

(06-16-2012 08:52 PM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote:  Hello everyone! I'm posting this as a preemptive to the next fur release, whenever it might be, for KittyCatS.

As everyone knows, the Balinese cats are crazy popular, and they really are so pretty, they should be! I just have a few problems with how they were released, or rather their place in recessive list. The majority of them, and we might as well just assume all of them, are super recessive. All under Abyssinian Black Silvers in dominance order. I mean, yay for more recessive traits, but I think this actually made things worse for the secondary market.

I remember clearly when Seal Lynx was discovered, and how crazy everything got. People were paying 120k per cat, then doing anything they could to pull the fur and make their money back. Heck, I bought 2 myself, although I chose to try to trait mine, but eventually I started selling just like everyone else.

Lilac Lynx was soon after discovered. So the same thing, everyone wanted it, turned out to be more recessive than Black Silver also, but just under Seal Lynx. Well, okay, 2 very recessive furs at the same time. I guess that was okay. I mean we know there are going to be more Balinese furs, so it shouldn't be a big deal.

Next came Chocolate Lynx. Oh...it too is more recessive than Black Silver? Ugh, my really pretty and traited Black Silvers just keep getting less and less valuable on that secondary market...Now we have 2 more Lynx, Flame and Cream, which, one can really just assume they are also going to be around Black Silvers in recessive order, hopefully they aren't, but lets just assume they are.

I've sat around and thought about this for a while, and have watched the trend, and it has really ruined the secondary market. What we have now, is people buying these highly recessive furs, needing to make their money back, and selling 10 to 15 opened boxes at their cat stall, for so cheap, driving the market on these furs down, and on top of that, making every fur under them devalued as well. People 'shopping cat pedigrees to try to prove their furs are more recessive. People mass breeding to make that Phat Ca$h not even bothering to try to pull traits, just mashing 2 cats together to get another pulled fur, and selling it to the highest bidder, which these days, isn't very high. Almost everyone has a Balinese of some sort. I'm not saying they shouldn't, but they shouldn't have all gotten them at the same time, that's for sure. I mean in my cattery we're using Balinese to pull furs from starters at this point, just because we have so many that aren't traited enough for us to bother selling. I'm not bragging, I'm actually annoyed by this.

->To get to the point, the next round of new furs, can we please spread them out a bit in terms of dominance orders? You guys did a wonderful job with the Abyssinian, and all of the other cats before that, why not keep doing that? People to this day still highly value an Aby Lilac, and it isn't the most recessive of fur.

I'm not saying Balinese aren't a good fur, they are amazing. They are very pretty, but so is every cat honestly. Callie works very hard on every cat, making them as real as she can. Pink and White #1, Siamese Seal, all of them are nice. They don't need to always be the most recessive though.

I'd really love to hear what other people think about this situation and see if anyone else feels the same way I do. I'm not the best of writers, so hopefully my point didn't get lost in my walls of text.

Quote:TLR
Please, on your next release, don't make every single cat the most recessive, spread them kids out!

On a side note/rant:

I know you cant stop the money game of KittyCatS. Some people are here just to make money. One could make that claim about me even. But now we have people selling their new Balinese furs for IRL money, just because they got lucky, and not even bothering to put the money back into the community. It's sickening. I'm not here to tell you what to do with your money, go do whatever you want, but I'm sick of these people who are here just to make a quick buck and get their booty kissed all day, not because they did anything skillful, or did some nice breeding, no, just because they got lucky. You aren't a wonderful breeder because you bought 2 cats, combined them, and got a 9 traited cat. You aren't a wonderful breeder because you bought a cat for 200k, and did something everyone else would have done to pull the fur, and sold it. You aren't a master of KittyCatS, just because you got lucky, this is a community, no one is the star, get off your high horses and have a wonderful day! <3

Well KittyCats did it again (making many furs that are recessiv to Abyssinian Black Silver and EVEN to Balinese seal Lynx) Ocicat Blue Ocicat Ebony Balinese Cream Balinese Flame. ALL seems to be recessiv to Balinese Lilac and a few of them are recessiv to the balinese Seal as well!! This was bad for the secondary market last time when we got the choco, lilac and the seal lynxes..