charts from the forum that need to be sent in to Saga?

[Kayla Woodrunner]

send 6/9/2016

Fur:

Tonkinese Champagne
Saga currently: Tonkinese Champagne dominant to Chateau Cocoa & White No.2 and recessive to Chateau Grey & White No. 2.
Thread: Proves Tonkinese Champagne is between Bengal Copper and Chateau Cocoa & White No.2
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24009
Chart by Carina Larsen (1/19/16) Proves Tonki Champagne rec to Bengal Copper
https://embed.gyazo.com/584d5d88be4a96c23e7ecfb408e670a1.png
Date charts resent: 6/9/2016

[Alassariah Resident]

Quote:On the other traits, Fabao's charts is almost always very up-to-date so I would suggest referring to it if you aren't already doing so.

Good news! Thank you.

Quote:Whiskers:

Cream
.... Note: with so many charts, this is a preponderance of evidence on latte but still would be better with a cream showing latte hid proven against a flame. ...

I may have what you are looking for in a few days. Since seeing this post, Dynamite! is now paired with gtandmom for her final box to try to find out if he has Latte or Flame hid.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Eyes:

Autumn Leaf
Saga currently: Autumn Leaf dominant to Double-Dip Flora and recessive to Beach Blue
Thread: Proves Autumn Leaf is between Ice Crystal and Double-Dip Flora
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24011
Chart by Lixy Byron (rec to Ice Crystal)
https://embed.gyazo.com/845d05ff4d1b08909274d17ecc1de9b1.png
https://embed.gyazo.com/3cb92cef888879060374ad6492486080.png
https://embed.gyazo.com/82806435cfdd3dc77e5a2a123a5f85fc.png
Date charts resent: 6/11/16

[Reven Rosca]

(06-09-2016 01:13 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Lush
Saga currently: nothing yet
Thread: Lush dominant to Double Plush
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186
Charts show dominant to Double Plush but Fabao's chart puts it dominant to OFW. I'll try to check with him to post the OFW chart. So won't be re-sending a chart here.
Date charts resent: not to be done, waiting for OFW vs Lush chart first

Inia Soulstar's chart in the OP here https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186 Shows Lush as dominant to either Dreamy, OFW or grandma Alyssa's hid.

I think Inia already has the key, especially if the kitten has been bred.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Hi Reven,
Inia's chart is an indicator but without knowing the child's hid or alyssa's hid, there is no way to know if the hid is dreamy, ofw, or any whisker recessive to ofw including double plush. I'd need a definitive chart to re-send, most helpful would be a lush showing and a dreamy or ofw hid proven against a more recessive whisker shown. I am assuming thought that Fabao probably already sent in a chart if he had one -- could belong to one of his friends so maybe not. I just wish we had one here on the Lush whisker thread too.

(06-10-2016 02:55 PM)Reven Rosca Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 01:13 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Lush
Saga currently: nothing yet
Thread: Lush dominant to Double Plush
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186
Charts show dominant to Double Plush but Fabao's chart puts it dominant to OFW. I'll try to check with him to post the OFW chart. So won't be re-sending a chart here.
Date charts resent: not to be done, waiting for OFW vs Lush chart first

Inia Soulstar's chart in the OP here https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186 Shows Lush as dominant to either Dreamy, OFW or grandma Alyssa's hid.

I think Inia already has the key, especially if the kitten has been bred.

[Reven Rosca]

It's most definitely an indicator and no proof, Kayl. Hence my last line.

(06-10-2016 04:50 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Hi Reven,
Inia's chart is an indicator but without knowing the child's hid or alyssa's hid, there is no way to know if the hid is dreamy, ofw, or any whisker recessive to ofw including double plush. I'd need a definitive chart to re-send, most helpful would be a lush showing and a dreamy or ofw hid proven against a more recessive whisker shown. I am assuming thought that Fabao probably already sent in a chart if he had one -- could belong to one of his friends so maybe not. I just wish we had one here on the Lush whisker thread too.

(06-10-2016 02:55 PM)Reven Rosca Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 01:13 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Lush
Saga currently: nothing yet
Thread: Lush dominant to Double Plush
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186
Charts show dominant to Double Plush but Fabao's chart puts it dominant to OFW. I'll try to check with him to post the OFW chart. So won't be re-sending a chart here.
Date charts resent: not to be done, waiting for OFW vs Lush chart first

Inia Soulstar's chart in the OP here https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186 Shows Lush as dominant to either Dreamy, OFW or grandma Alyssa's hid.

I think Inia already has the key, especially if the kitten has been bred.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Hi Reven,
I am only re-sending proofs from the forum, not indicators. I'd like Saga's to match the thread/forum progress as much as possible. It bugs when they don't. I merely pointed out I can't send in this whisker in yet but since there are probably proofs out there already since Fabao's chart shows it, I put it out there we need one either to Saga's or on the thread -- my preference is both.

(06-10-2016 04:57 PM)Reven Rosca Wrote:  It's most definitely an indicator and no proof, Kayl. Hence my last line.

(06-10-2016 04:50 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Hi Reven,
Inia's chart is an indicator but without knowing the child's hid or alyssa's hid, there is no way to know if the hid is dreamy, ofw, or any whisker recessive to ofw including double plush. I'd need a definitive chart to re-send, most helpful would be a lush showing and a dreamy or ofw hid proven against a more recessive whisker shown. I am assuming thought that Fabao probably already sent in a chart if he had one -- could belong to one of his friends so maybe not. I just wish we had one here on the Lush whisker thread too.

(06-10-2016 02:55 PM)Reven Rosca Wrote:  

(06-09-2016 01:13 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Lush
Saga currently: nothing yet
Thread: Lush dominant to Double Plush
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186
Charts show dominant to Double Plush but Fabao's chart puts it dominant to OFW. I'll try to check with him to post the OFW chart. So won't be re-sending a chart here.
Date charts resent: not to be done, waiting for OFW vs Lush chart first

Inia Soulstar's chart in the OP here https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186 Shows Lush as dominant to either Dreamy, OFW or grandma Alyssa's hid.

I think Inia already has the key, especially if the kitten has been bred.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

6/11/16: Sagakitty just confirmed that they have received the ones I sent in earlier so there sould be some updates soon.


notes for things to be re-send

(note: for those who could have sworn these were in the previous post -- as I send them, the sent ones get noted in the previous post and the ones not sent yet get added in a new post)

Fur:

Eyes:

Odyssey Adore
Saga currently: Odyssey Adore dominant to Odyssey Fire & Rain and recessive to Oceania
Thread: Proves Odyssey Cognac Moon is recessive to Twilight (so now between Full Moon/Twilight and Odyssey Fire & Rain)
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=25697
Chart by Dottie Idlemind
https://embed.gyazo.com/da51bb7ba6e149b6cb7974f13a11164c.png
Date charts resent: don't need to re-send. Saga updated 6/11/16


On the other traits, Fabao's charts is almost always very up-to-date so I would suggest referring to it if you aren't already doing so. I am still taking note of things to re-send to Saga's because some people only use those charts.
Fabao's other trait chart
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TrDVn0kBF3NhtJewvP4pjq5bYYOrLC10Sk_VyYIWQTc/edit#gid=0

Whiskers:

Cream
Saga currently: as of 6/13/16 Cream whisker colour dominant to Dusky, recessive to Blonde Streaked
Thread: Cream is recessive to Chocolate
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=25342
Chart by Peaches Latrell proving Cream recessive to Chocolate
https://embed.gyazo.com/8ead020e52d6b76adfbf3e0e9c394351.png
Date charts resent: 6/14/16

Lush
Saga currently: nothing yet
Thread: Lush dominant to Double Plush
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26186
Charts show dominant to Double Plush but Fabao's chart puts it dominant to OFW. I'll try to check with him to post the OFW chart. So won't be re-sending a chart here.
Date charts resent: not to be done, waiting for OFW vs Lush chart first

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Yay! It looks like Saga's folks have been able to take time from RL to get some charts done and charted. So the following are the ones that I have re-sent from the forum (they may have also received charts from original breeder). The information now shows up on Saga's chart. Whether from the charts re-sent or other charts they received -- who cares -- we match on these!

Fur:

Tonkinese Champagne ( resent: 6/9/2016)
Thread: Proves Tonkinese Champagne is between Bengal Copper and Chateau Cocoa & White No.2
Saga currently: Tonkinese Champagne dominant to Chateau Cocoa & White No.2 and recessive to Chateau Grey & White No. 2.
6/13 Saga now matches the thread:


Eyes:

Autumn Leaf (re-sent 6/11/16)
Thread: Proves Autumn Leaf is between Ice Crystal and Double-Dip Flora
Saga currently: Autumn Leaf dominant to Double-Dip Flora and recessive to Beach Blue
6/13 Saga now matches the thread:

Galaxy Star (re-sent: 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Galaxy Star recessive to Exotic Journey (3 charts sent from Ivy and Arwen)
Saga currently: Galaxy Star now showing recessive to Exotic Journey as of 6/6,needs 2nd chart
6/11 Saga now matches the thread: Galaxy Star is placedrecessive to Exotic Journey

Odyssey Cognac Moon (re-sent: 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Odyssey Cognac Moon is between Full Moon and Morning Dew
Saga currently: dominant to Morning Dew & Pewter, and recessive to Exotic Treasure
6/13 Saga now matches the thread:


Ears

Dreamy fold (resent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Placed: Proves Dreamy Fold dominant to Odyssey Rounded Fold, placing Dreamy fold between MOF and ORF
Saga currently: Dreamy Fold ears recessive to Mysterious Odyssey Fold
---- on dreamy fold, it is obvious that it is not from the chart that was resent but looks like from another chart
6/13 Dreamy Fold ears dominant to Soft Curl and recessive to Mysterious Odyssey Fold

[Kayla Woodrunner]

First sends already sent:

Crystal Berry
Saga currently: dominant to Canary, and recessive to Full Moon (also Twilight & Crystal Crush)
Thread: Crystal Berry is between Morning Dew and Canary
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=20818&page=2
Chart by Kayla Woodrunner
https://embed.gyazo.com/7fd69943f362055b2911d02f4cd2ee4a.png
Date chart first send: 6/14/16

Pomegranate
Saga currently: Pomegranate dominant to Wild Cherry and recessive to Full Moon
Thread: Pomegranate is dominant to Crystal Berry (Morning Dew-Canary) and recessive to Full Moon/Crystal Crush
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24280
Chart by Kayla Woodrunner
https://embed.gyazo.com/f0986c81b7d8b09a769ca9fb7de210cf.png
Date chart first send: 6/14/16

Butterscotch whiskers
Saga's thread: Nothing yet
Thread: Placed between Latte and Flame, first chart already re-sent
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26187
Saga needs 2 charts
Proof of a 2nd chart
Chart by Alassariah Resident (Proof dom to Flame)
https://embed.gyazo.com/89a80c7bac1cb563486877f1bde4841c.png
Date chart first send: 6/16/16