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New group for high end cats. - Rocky Balzibo - 01-19-2012 02:04 AM
Update: Having had this group for 9 months now, I dont have the energy to keep up with it anymore.
The last few months its been alot of people advertising stuff that is not meant for this group. And many of those people IM me all whiney and mad that they got kicked when breaking the rules.
If you broke the rules be mad at yourself and not me for trying to run a kittycats group.
Thank you all for participating
Hello gang, I would like to invite you all to join my new group, which only allows sales spam for cats with a price tag of 3000 or more.
Im hoping this could be the group for both sellers and buyers to be in, and get the spam for more high end cats. Simply put, less spam and noise, here we will be able to see the spam for the coolest cats on the grid. We all know how spammy the other groups can be and most of the time there is so much random spam that you miss the cool ones up for grabs.
The group is called High Stakes KittyCatS. You can either search for that or copy this group key and paste it in local chat to get a clickable link to join the group.
secondlife:///app/group/33751192-32c3-9b6f-a456-363b1ec514a9/about
The rules for spamming is in the group info.
Thanks for reading!
RE: New group for high end cats. - Rocky Balzibo - 10-13-2012 02:55 PM
Updated rules and bump for group
"A group to advertise cats that you are trying to sell for 3000L or more.
Group rules: (please scroll down and read all)
Only cats with a pricetag or starting bid over 3000.
One spam per day limit.
No old cats, only fresh unused kittens.
No collectible/limited edition cats.
No raffle spam.
No all caps.
No bots.
Auctioneers can advertise their lineup once on the day of the auction.
If you get kicked from the group, you have broken a rule. If you want to know why, IM me."
You will get kicked from this group when advertising for something that is not within the group rules. If you don't understand why you were kicked, IM me and I will explain. Everyone is welcome to rejoin back again but continued breaking of the rules will just make me tired of your ignorance/disrespectfullness (if that even is a word, lol). It's never personal if you get kicked. And if your sole purpose when IM:ing me after a kick is to whine and drama and tell me how you are never gonna join the group again, how rude I am for kicking you, how rude I am for not warning you, save it, I've heard it atleast 10 times over the last 6 months
RE: New group for high end cats. - Devilness Chant - 10-14-2012 01:59 PM
I was a bad girl I know....but I do have a question I should have asked before. I do have high end kitties for sale, when I spam them in your group, can I add that I also have a raffle going? My raffle kitties are worth more than 3k too. And I do love your group for the fact I don't get over whelmed with spams. I wish there was one group everyone was in that sent one or two spams a day for raffles and any kitties.
Not only does it get annoying getting the same pop ups a dozen times, but I always feel bad when I do it. But you have to just to make sure you get you word out to as many ppl as you can since some turn them off for some groups and keep others open.
RE: New group for high end cats. - Kayleigh McMillan - 10-14-2012 02:50 PM
(10-14-2012 01:59 PM)devilness chant Wrote:
Somehow this doesn't surprise me
Is this a group for elite people and cats only, like as long as we price the cats high we are okay?
All cats are equal but some cats are more equal than others it seems.
I was a member of the group but the ristrictive nature of the group made me fear to make a mistake.
It sounds not so friendly to be honest it could well be it is not meant that way though.
Eventhough I was never naughty as Dev was ofcourse lol
As I recall I did not use your group to spam as I felt a little insecure to do so.
(10-14-2012 01:59 PM)devilness chant Wrote: I wish there was one group everyone was in that sent one or two spams a day for raffles and any kitties.
I wish for such group as well
Are you going to make a group Dev?
If so invite me please!
Because idk if I make high end cats, I make what I like and love to see and value them as such and this might be 3k higher or lower I find it hard to find a definition for high stakes cats.
RE: New group for high end cats. - Deer Thistle - 10-14-2012 06:23 PM
It's true, "high end" is extremely subjective and something that may seem "high end" to one, may not even be for another. What constitutes "high end" for your group? Just the price tag or does it have to be something considered recessive or rare? I always feel hesitant to post because I'm unsure if I'm fitting the guidelines properly.
RE: New group for high end cats. - Rocky Balzibo - 10-14-2012 07:56 PM
devil: my problem with a raffle is that it's a cat you can not buy, yeah you can enter a million times and most likely win, but it's not a cat for sale, it's one you might win.
Kayleigh & deerylou: The only definition, group wise, for a cat to be high stakes or high end is the 3k price tag. That being said, a cat for 3k might not be high-end or new & cool, it's just how it's defined in the group rules as a measure to filter out alot of the normal spam that other groups are filled with, the groups where you get x amount spam every minute until your head explodes. How you personally define a high end cat is totally up to you, I can only make a defintion for the group, so it will run the way I want it.
Personally I would define a high end or high stakes cat as a kitten that has a new & rare trait that many people would want. But this is extremely subjective as you say deery, that's why the rule is 3000 or more, because most cats that fit into the new & rare category usually sells for over that amount. So having the linden amount as a rule makes it easier for everyone to know if the spam they are sending is allowed or not.
I think most people can agree that current spam groups with "no rules" can be mildly annoying with tons of notices, this group was created for the purpose of having a group where the spam is light and the cats are "better" and/or more sought after.
The easiest way to know if the spam you are about to send in high stakes kittycats is to look at your spam and ask yourself "what is priced for 3k or more?" and then simply edit your spam so it only mentions cats that have that price tag or more. Price tag 3k and up = in spam. Price tag less then 3k = not in spam.
I would welcome any suggestions how to make the group rules easier to understand. I hope the new rules i made a few days ago is more clear then the old ones.
RE: New group for high end cats. - AnimalRP Resident - 10-15-2012 05:09 AM
(10-14-2012 02:50 PM)Kayleigh McMillan Wrote:(10-14-2012 01:59 PM)devilness chant Wrote:
Somehow this doesn't surprise me
Is this a group for elite people and cats only, like as long as we price the cats high we are okay?
All cats are equal but some cats are more equal than others it seems.
I was a member of the group but the ristrictive nature of the group made me fear to make a mistake.
It sounds not so friendly to be honest it could well be it is not meant that way though.
Eventhough I was never naughty as Dev was ofcourse lol
As I recall I did not use your group to spam as I felt a little insecure to do so.
(10-14-2012 01:59 PM)devilness chant Wrote: I wish there was one group everyone was in that sent one or two spams a day for raffles and any kitties.
I wish for such group as well
Are you going to make a group Dev?
If so invite me please!
Because idk if I make high end cats, I make what I like and love to see and value them as such and this might be 3k higher or lower I find it hard to find a definition for high stakes cats.
I agree with you. i think its good to have a group for so called high end cats... and im out spoken so ill say this.. The group comes off to me like a place for people to over price there cat like some so called "Top" breeders do.
RE: New group for high end cats. - Rocky Balzibo - 10-15-2012 05:50 AM
(10-15-2012 05:09 AM)AnimalRP Resident Wrote: I agree with you. i think its good to have a group for so called high end cats... and im out spoken so ill say this.. The group comes off to me like a place for people to over price there cat like some so called "Top" breeders do.
Hey Animal.
I'm not sure if this is a problem that is more abundant in high stakes group, then the other groups. Sure there is a big difference between a price tag of 5k and 10k, but this kind of pricing occurs in all price ranges, like a 500 cat set for 1000.
Price settings of high stakes cats is just more visible when it comes to price difference due to the bigger number.
Anyways, what people price their cats for is not something i can do any about, i can only be responsible for my own prices, and to be honest I think people that overprice their cats by alot will struggle to sell any of them, the general buyer of higher end cats are pretty knowledgable.
But you raise a good point, people should always investigate a particular trait or fur and get a feeling for what the market is for what they are buying (especially the more they cost). If you buy a cat for 300 there is not much need for due dilligence, but if splurging on a 5-10-20-30k cat, look around, ask people and get to know what a cat might be worth before buying one.
Ultimately, the responsibility of paying a fair price for something, is with the buyer. That goes both for someone that got into cats 3 days ago and someone that got into cats 1.5 years ago. They both need to research what they are buying, only difference is that its easier to find out when you are an old time breeder.
RE: New group for high end cats. - Kayleigh McMillan - 10-15-2012 02:38 PM
Thank you for clarifying the rules of your group Rocky.
RE: New group for high end cats. - Devilness Chant - 10-15-2012 06:39 PM
I've been breeding a year and a half and still have trouble finding the right prices to put on my kitties.
When I look around I see one kitty at 20k and almost the same kitty elsewhere for 2k. I try to figure what a mid range is for some and what i would pay for another.
I hate trying to price them to be honest. I don't want to undercut one and over price the other.