(04-09-2025 09:15 AM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  Great! Ila's grandparents on both sides are too old to hide Imperial Jasper, so we do have a lower range: Magic Mountain is dominant to Faded Flower. Buttercup's hidden is actually still a mystery: as Odyssey Rock No. 1 could easily have come from dad Deuterononmy, as it shows on grandma Lucy and is recessive to Grey Matter and could hide on dad. Knowing exactly what Buttercup's hidden eye is will help immensely - it is Ody Rock 1 or more recessive, which will give us a really nice narrow range for Magic Mountain. Thank you for all your help :-)

(04-09-2025 08:54 AM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  Hi Song,
Here is Buttercups most interesting baby, i have gotten nothing else except gen sunflower for her babies, except when paired with Butter then I got the Magic Mountain.
Buttercup

As far as Ila, here is what I have for her, I dont know if this helps.

Ila

I have Imperial Jasper I can test with.

(04-08-2025 05:59 PM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  

(04-05-2025 01:02 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  trying again (not so good at the forums!)


https://gyazo.com/56a22c2a0f97c2876aac1fbe2edbc5a4

https://gyazo.com/2c46ecf17687ae257dafc064d421ce14

https://gyazo.com/4aec339059d8eef8080799532bb20a61

https://gyazo.com/448295f2a7df05043f5fc9145fd0faed

https://gyazo.com/666e3306edd1dc4ddfd349689ee80fbe

https://gyazo.com/307c9959e6f78acd8f99b800515e1287

https://gyazo.com/41c165136931031823001b380953d864

Hey Jess, I'll post what I think here, in the order they are listed:

1.) Magic Mountain passed from the starter, but hides Light Wash or more recessive from mom Stormy. It will be very interesting to see what this cat hides.
2.) Exactly the same as (1).
3.) Showing Magic Mountain with Faded Flower mom. Since Ila's parents are technically young enough to have Imperial Jasper in the line, no proof can be assumed here this far in the pedigree. If you can prove Ila pure Faded Flower or you test against Imperial Jasper, there is still possible information.
4.) Exactly the same as (3).
5.) The starter passed his Gen eye - no Magic Mountain in this kitty.
6.) This kitten is interesting for two reasons: Magic Mountain is showing on the kitten, so she hides Serendipity Stare or more recessive - pulling the hider will tell us something! Also: What eye does grandma Buttercup Nelly hide? Special baby Gar hides Buttercup Nelly's hidden eye under Magic Mountain. Knowing Buttercup Nelly's hidden will give us a lower range.
7.) Again here, proof of Ila being pure Faded Flower is key. She could (hypothetically - but looking at parent and grandparent ages it's possible) hide Imperial Jasper - which was discovered 229 days ago today (so with the parents at 177 and 165, technically possible). You could test Nelly with an Imperial Jasper mate or even a Deep Dive mate (discovered 130 days ago, Ila isn't hiding Deep Dive).

Let me know if I overlooked or was mistaken on any of this. Thank you Jessica, for all the information!

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Posting for Jessica: Magic Mountain is dominant to Faded Flower:



Proof Ila can't hide Imperial Jasper (discovered 22 August 2024), as grandparents are too old:



She also can't hide Deep Dive or Fairy Dust, as their discoveries are even more recent.

Thank you for all the info, Jess!

(04-09-2025 10:18 AM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  Thank you so much Jess! Buttercup hides Aubergine. Daphne and her parents are too old to hide Aubergine, so it had to come from under Gar's Magic Mountain, making it Buttercup's hidden. So - Magic Mountain is dominant to Aubergine.

(04-19-2025 02:02 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  I think this might fall under aubergine and magic mountain proofs?
???https://gyazo.com/acf46a0bead161f55a0ee5a630cf89dc

(04-09-2025 10:18 AM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  Thank you so much Jess! Buttercup hides Aubergine. Daphne and her parents are too old to hide Aubergine, so it had to come from under Gar's Magic Mountain, making it Buttercup's hidden. So - Magic Mountain is dominant to Aubergine.

(04-20-2025 02:24 PM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  This does indeed tell us that Magic Mountain is dominant to Odyssey Tuscan Dream.

(04-19-2025 02:02 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  I think this might fall under aubergine and magic mountain proofs?
???https://gyazo.com/acf46a0bead161f55a0ee5a630cf89dc

(04-09-2025 10:18 AM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  Thank you so much Jess! Buttercup hides Aubergine. Daphne and her parents are too old to hide Aubergine, so it had to come from under Gar's Magic Mountain, making it Buttercup's hidden. So - Magic Mountain is dominant to Aubergine.

(05-11-2025 08:05 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  
https://gyazo.com/8e90c68ef332dc173a32aee19a3e6149

(05-12-2025 06:39 AM)Arcadiamyst Resident Wrote:  

(05-11-2025 08:05 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  
https://gyazo.com/8e90c68ef332dc173a32aee19a3e6149

That one shows magic mountain is dominant to serendipity stare, as both parents are magic mountain, the serendipity was hiding beneath one. That makes it more dominant than anticipated.